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Chest Pull   Feb 14, 2001 

Hi Everybody: 

This is my first time posting.  I have been doing the FlexEffect exercises for a little over a week.   I'm only doing a few at a time so I can get them down pat.    40 is a lot to learn all at once!  

I am having trouble with the chest pull.  I am supposed to feel it in my chest but I only feel tension in my neck when I do it.   I am following directions.   Anyone have a clue what I might be doing wrong?    Thanks.

Rita
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Hi Rita

You will feel it mostly in your neck since that is where the platysma mostly is; however, you should feel some pull in your upper chest as well around the collar bone. Play with the exercise a bit until you get really comfortable with it. It can take a while, but don't be afraid to modify it so that it fits you. Some times it takes a while to really "get" an exercise. Don't give up, and visit the board as often as you can. Also talk to Jean. I know that this has been a problem area for her as well as a success story.

Jason

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To Olympia Oct 26, 2000

Hi Olympia
Can you tell me if you benefited from doing chest pull. I've been doing this exercise for 3 months now, and still haven't seen any satisfactory results, and I'm a bit worried about some comments I've read on the board. How long before I can hope to see a nice tightened up neck? I only had a bit of loose skin here, only noticeable when my head is tilted to one side. I don't think others notice it as much as I do, but I want to tighten it up before they do!! I'd like very much to know if you had success with this. Frowner is another exercise that bothers me, because my frown lines seem to be worse even though I do this exercise often twice a day. I think I look more severe looking than I did before. Did you experience this, and if so, when did it improve? Thanks for your help.

Janine

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Chest Pull  Oct 11, 2000

Hi anyone
I need to know has anyone benefited from doing chest pull. I'm nervous about doing this exercise, because I have loose skin on my neck, and I definitely don't want to worsen this, as it depresses me already. Has anyone found that chest pull actually does tighten up this area. I find it hard to believe when pulling down on the skin like that, but I'd appreciate response from those who have found improvement.Thanks

Rachel

Rachel:

Are you talking about the exercise where you make a sad face and put both hands under your neck and pull down.  I don't have my book with me at this time so I forgot what it's called.  But at any rate, I've been flexing for 8 months now and like you, I have had loose skin under my neck that started to sag.  (I'm 46 years old by the way) and since I've been doing these exercises I have seen improvement in this area. I not only do this (chest pull) exercise but I also do head raiser (50+ times a day) and tongue press which has really helped that area as well.  When doing the chest pull, I try to pull down as hard as possible without choking myself to death, lol.  There's no way you are going to damage this area, you're actually strengthening, tightening, and building the muscle, but it's going to take time. A positive thing I noticed in doing the chest pull is my upper chest skin that was loose has completely tightened up just like it was when I was in my 20's for which I'm very grateful.  So, Rachel what you need to do is get aggressive as I've had to, increase your reps to where you feel you've had a workout and increase your reps in head raiser and eventually you'll see improvement.  But like I said, it's going to take time because I haven't reached my goal yet.

Becky

Hi Becky

Thanks very much for your reply. It's encouraged me to go ahead. I do appreciate it. Let me know please if you continue to see improvement. Thanks.

Rachel

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Facialbuilding Vs Bodybuilding    Sep 2, 2000

Hello,


I'd written earlier about doing the chest pull and your answer was helpful--I can finally feel my chest pulling up. Now I have another question. In my regular workouts, I try to do aerobics everyday but have always understood that bodybuilding (circuit training in my case) you do every 48 hours so that the muscles have time to repair themselves and get stronger, etcetera. This has always been how I've done it. Why would this not also be the case in facial building, since after all, you are also building muscle? I ask this in part because I can feel my sore facial muscles in a few areas!

Jean

Hi Jean

When bodybuilding you are using a fixed amount of weight... not the case with facialbuilding, you are applying resistance with your hands and the amount of resistance you apply (weight) will vary with each set.  If the muscle is sore you automatically (psyche) lessen the resistance.  For the majority of facialbuilders, the first few weeks of training are usually spent just trying to find the individual muscles before they are really able to poor-it-on, causing any real break-down of  fiber. Once you reach that point, you will know when to give it a rest and quite frankly, soreness is reason enough.. it for just plain comfort alone. Facialbuilding is a lifetime commitment.  If you think of it as something you do everyday, the time you neglect to do it will not become an issue. (the very reason most training regimes fail)    Just do it everyday, for all the days you can't.
Deb

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Chest Pull question   Aug 27, 2000

Hello,

I have your tape and book and do all the exercises just about every day--been doing this only for the last 3 weeks or so. I think it's all great. My questions: Not having the video, I'm a little concerned that I'm not doing the Chest Pull correctly. The book instructions are that you should feel the skin of the upper chest move upward, which I'm never aware of. Perhaps you could elaborate? Also, if time is an issue and on occasion I want to get just enough exercises to get by (but not skimp too much on under the eye or jowls), which ones should I do? Or which ones not do? (Whichever way is easier to answer...)
Thanks,
Jean

Hi Jean,

Try this...  put just one hand on your upper chest just below the collar bones... draw the corners of your mouth down (sad face) strongly enough to see striations in the neck now do you feel the tissue moving upward?  It might be that your triangularis muscle is a little on the weak side (same  muscle that you use when doing BOTTOM FURROW) it can play a big part in activating the platysma (muscle used for CHEST PULL) 

Short on time: Do as many ADV's as you have time for, or do two favorites for each area.  You might even want to write yourself out two short routines using different exercises so that you can alternate them when several days just won't allow the time.  Keep us posted with your results!

Deb

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Neck at collarbone area   Aug 1, 2000

I purchased your whole package.

Which is the best exercise for your neck right at the collarbone area?  It has started to sag there a bit and bothers me something fiercesome because of the way it feels. 

Thanks,

Jack

Hi Jack:

First - congrats on purchasing the whole shebang and on taking control of your own aging process.  To help get rid of the drape at the base of the collar bone area,  you should concentrate on or double up on the following: (check out the Gray's Anatomy Pics in the Neck and Face Muscles Section of the website) http://www.flexeffect.com/muscles.htm

Head Lift A -&- B works the sternocleidomastoideus which runs from the base of the back of the head down to the front of neck ending at collar bone - The V looking muscle.  

Chest Pull works the platysma which is an extremely thin muscle that covers the whole neck area. 

IMPORTANT: You'll notice in the back of the manual, specifically pp. 116-118, Deb has ingeniously stated each of the "TARGET AREAS"  For example:   "Under Chin -&- Neck" and then lists all the exercises which will effect those areas.  So if you have a problem area(s), and you're wondering which exercises will help to rehabilitate those problem areas, its as easy as pie - because
Deb has it all mapped out for you right at your fingertips. And of course - you can always ask us!

You might want to think about incorporating such proven topicals such as Retin A which increases dermal thickness and stimulates collagen production, Cellex-C or Skinceuticals topical vitamin C
serums or creams which also stimulate collagen productions as well as protect again photo-aging, Kinerase, and Neova or Skinbiologies Copper Peptide Serum or Cream:  All of the aforementioned will help to rehabilitate the skin, are proven and patented products most sold through dermatologist offices. 

Please note: you need a prescription for Retin A and the in's and out's of how to use it, while all the other products mentioned do not require prescriptions. 

I keep mentioning this site, but it's fabulous, and you can get a lot of info. and the products I have mentioned here. The use of said products would be a wonderful adjunct to you facial resistance training program.

Best of luck.  If you can, take before pictures prior to your training.

My best,
Olympia

 

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